[Funambol-developers] outlook redemption licensing question

[Jamie McClelland]

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My literal reading of the Outlook redemption license (which comes with the
outlook plugin) is that it can only be used for development purposes.[0]

Is it legal for me to use the free/open source version of the outlook plugin
in a production environment, with this unlicensed version of the redemption
library? Or, do I need to purchase the licensed version?

Also - is it possible to compile the outlook plugin without the redemption
code (in other words, using the regular api calls that will prompt the user to
confirm)?

Thanks for your help!

jamie

[0] http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/download.htm

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[Andrea Toccalini]

Hi Jamie,

please see my comments below.

Post by Jamie McClelland
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My literal reading of the Outlook redemption license (which comes with the
outlook plugin) is that it can only be used for development purposes.[0]
Is it legal for me to use the free/open source version of the outlook plugin
in a production environment, with this unlicensed version of the redemption
library? Or, do I need to purchase the licensed version?

The open source version of the Plug-in is designed for personal use.
What do you mean exactly with "in a production environment" ? Are you
going to use it for commercial purpose?
In this case you'd better contact Funambol directly for a licensed version.

Post by Jamie McClelland
Also - is it possible to compile the outlook plugin without the redemption
code (in other words, using the regular api calls that will prompt the user to
confirm)?

Outlook Plug-in imports the Redemption library and part of the code uses
Redemption calls to access Outlook data.
Now you cannot compile the plugin without the Redemption library
(without touching the code :) )

Regards,

Andrea

Post by Jamie McClelland
Thanks for your help!
jamie
[0] http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/download.htm
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[Jamie McClelland]

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Post by Andrea Toccalini

Post by Jamie McClelland
Is it legal for me to use the free/open source version of the outlook plugin
in a production environment, with this unlicensed version of the redemption
library? Or, do I need to purchase the licensed version?

The open source version of the Plug-in is designed for personal use.
What do you mean exactly with "in a production environment" ? Are you
going to use it for commercial purpose?
In this case you'd better contact Funambol directly for a licensed version.

I am the systems administrator for a nonprofit organization with 30 employees.
I would like to install the Funambol outlook plugin on all of their computers
as part of a project to transfer their outlook data to Horde (and ease the
transition away from Outlook).

So - it's not exactly "personal" use - however, I'm also not re-packaging or
re-distributing or re-selling anything. So, I'm not sure if I'm breaking the
Redemption license.

Thanks for your answers and help!

Jamie


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[Andrea Toccalini]

Hi Jamie,

so you could ask direclty to the author of Redemption library, Dmitry
Streblechenko (***@dimastr.com).
He will let you know if you're breaking his license or not ;)
I'm adding Dmitry in cc.

Bye,
Andrea

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Post by Jamie McClelland
Is it legal for me to use the free/open source version of the outlook plugin
in a production environment, with this unlicensed version of the redemption
library? Or, do I need to purchase the licensed version?

The open source version of the Plug-in is designed for personal use.
What do you mean exactly with "in a production environment" ? Are you
going to use it for commercial purpose?
In this case you'd better contact Funambol directly for a licensed version.

I am the systems administrator for a nonprofit organization with 30 employees.
I would like to install the Funambol outlook plugin on all of their computers
as part of a project to transfer their outlook data to Horde (and ease the
transition away from Outlook).
So - it's not exactly "personal" use - however, I'm also not re-packaging or
re-distributing or re-selling anything. So, I'm not sure if I'm breaking the
Redemption license.
Thanks for your answers and help!
Jamie
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[Dmitry Streblechenko]

Jamie,

If you are using Redemption for any business purposes, you need to purchase
a distributable version.

A single license will cover the whole company, no matter how many copies you
install.



Thank you!



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From: Andrea Toccalini [mailto:***@funambol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:01 AM
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Cc: Dmitry Streblechenko
Subject: Re: [Funambol-developers] outlook redemption licensing question



Hi Jamie,

so you could ask direclty to the author of Redemption library, Dmitry
Streblechenko (***@dimastr.com).
He will let you know if you're breaking his license or not ;)
I'm adding Dmitry in cc.

Bye,
Andrea




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Is it legal for me to use the free/open source version of the outlook plugin
in a production environment, with this unlicensed version of the redemption
library? Or, do I need to purchase the licensed version?



The open source version of the Plug-in is designed for personal use.
What do you mean exactly with "in a production environment" ? Are you
going to use it for commercial purpose?
In this case you'd better contact Funambol directly for a licensed version.



I am the systems administrator for a nonprofit organization with 30
employees.
I would like to install the Funambol outlook plugin on all of their
computers
as part of a project to transfer their outlook data to Horde (and ease the
transition away from Outlook).

So - it's not exactly "personal" use - however, I'm also not re-packaging or
re-distributing or re-selling anything. So, I'm not sure if I'm breaking the
Redemption license.

Thanks for your answers and help!

Jamie


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Post by Andrea Toccalini
Jamie,
If you are using Redemption for any business purposes, you need to
purchase a distributable version.
A single license will cover the whole company, no matter how many copies
you install.

Thanks for the response. I'm including the funambol list because I hope this
is useful for others - but if not just let me know and I will continue
privately with Dmitry.

I am happy to purchase the license - which brings me to another question for
the Funambol developers (and perhaps Dmitry as well): is there a way to
purchase the license from Dmitry and then re-package my own outlook funmabol
installer with the licensed copy of redemption?

I ask because I would like to deploy the outlook plugin automatically (I'm
using wpkg[0]) - however, the pop up redemption license warning makes that
impossible.

Thanks everyone for you help!
jamie

[0] http://wpkg.org


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[Andrea Toccalini]

Hi Jamie,

yes, you can re-package the Outlook plugin using the licensed version of
Redemption.dll.
You have to download the latest source code of Outlook client, here:
http://download.forge.objectweb.org/sync4j/funambol-outlook-plugin-src-6.5.4.zip
then follow instructions to build the plugin:
https://wiki.objectweb.org/sync4j/Wiki.jsp?page=HowtobuildOutlookV65

Before building the installer, you just have to replace the
Redemption.dll file and then run "ant installer-dev" instead of "ant
release".
This means you will build the plugin with your local files. Let me know
if you need help :)

Bye,

Andrea

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Post by Andrea Toccalini
Jamie,
If you are using Redemption for any business purposes, you need to
purchase a distributable version.
A single license will cover the whole company, no matter how many copies
you install.

Thanks for the response. I'm including the funambol list because I hope this
is useful for others - but if not just let me know and I will continue
privately with Dmitry.
I am happy to purchase the license - which brings me to another question for
the Funambol developers (and perhaps Dmitry as well): is there a way to
purchase the license from Dmitry and then re-package my own outlook funmabol
installer with the licensed copy of redemption?
I ask because I would like to deploy the outlook plugin automatically (I'm
using wpkg[0]) - however, the pop up redemption license warning makes that
impossible.
Thanks everyone for you help!
jamie
[0] http://wpkg.org
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